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# Judith Butler, philosopher: ‘If you sacrifice a minority like trans people, you are operating within a fascist logic’
- URL: https://werd.io/judith-butler-philosopher-if-you-sacrifice-a-minority-like-trans/
- Published: 2025-02-10T14:39:21.000Z
- Updated: 2025-02-10T14:39:21.000Z
- Author: Ben Werdmuller
- Tags: Notable links, #Import 2025-06-11 21:47

\[[Iker Seisdedos interviewing Judith Butler in EL PAÍS English](https://english.elpais.com/culture/2024-12-15/judith-butler-philosopher-if-you-sacrifice-a-minority-like-trans-people-you-are-operating-within-a-fascist-logic.html)\]

[Judith Butler](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judith%5FButler) is as on-point as ever:

> "Q. It wasn’t just Trumpism. Some Democratic voices say it’s time to move beyond the issue of trans rights in areas like sports, which affect very few people.  
>  
> A. You could say that about the Jews, Black people or Haitians, or any very vulnerable minority. Once you decide that a single vulnerable minority can be sacrificed, you’re operating within a fascist logic, because that means there might be a second one you’re willing to sacrifice, and a third, a fourth, and then what happens?"

This is exactly it. I've also heard voices say that there should have been less discussion of racial equity: less Black Lives Matter, less 1619 Project, less discussion of systemic inequality. It's nonsense, and as Butler says, it's a road that leads us down an inevitably fascist path.

[The whole interview](https://english.elpais.com/culture/2024-12-15/judith-butler-philosopher-if-you-sacrifice-a-minority-like-trans-people-you-are-operating-within-a-fascist-logic.html) is very much worth your time: nuanced and well-considered.

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\[[Link](https://english.elpais.com/culture/2024-12-15/judith-butler-philosopher-if-you-sacrifice-a-minority-like-trans-people-you-are-operating-within-a-fascist-logic.html)\]